For those of you who only want to hear what’s wrong with it, here goes:

cNET has commented about the greens being bad. I don’t think they are talking about the accuracy of the green so much as the motion problems with the green phosphor “after-glow”. This phenomenon occurs on ALL phosphor based displays. If any of you have a CRT monitor and would like to see it, Simply set your background to BLACK, enable “Show contents while dragging” and slide a white window left / right over the black background, you will see a faint green trail as you move the window around.

Someone has described this “con” as a fat kid on a teeter-totter indicating it is so minor, it doesn’t really matter.

Also: don’t think of this “con” as a con compared to other techs, as almost every other tech (e.g. LCD) handles this much worse. (trails every color instead of just green, and even more latent)

Watching Movies, I can say this is VERY hard to notice, even looking for it.

Another CON I would like to point out is the loss of shadow and bright detail.

I have read comments that this set is one of the best for shadow detail, but I would beg to differ. The 3 gamma curves that are provided all offer VERY MINOR differences, all of which seem to crush BOTH the white and the DARK. The Crush is very minor ~6 driving levels. None of the various “enhancements” fixed this issue. Raising the brightness / contrast only helped to a point, but would never fully eliminate it.

Power consumption is rather high as well at over 500W. (puts off alot of heat)

What else can I list as a con? … The Zoom mode doesn’t “zoom” wide content properly, it instead stretches it out vertically.

The bezel is gloss black and is sharply contrast against the glass screen making the screen look sorta gray (when off)…. If that can be considered a con.

All in all though, the set has a very photographic look to it compared to other displays and let me stress that compared to everything else I’ve ever seen, this display is by far the best I’ve seen.

The black bars fade into the room.
Bright whites exist next to dark blacks.
Images have incredible pop and vibrance.
Detail and sharpness is unbelivable.
Noise filters do an excellent job of removing compression artifacts on less then perfect sources, etc etc, everything else you’ve probably already read.

(VeriLUM measured the black lvl at 0.01) The lowest it could measure which puts it in the 0.0149 – 0.0049 range.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/kuro/demo/full/0,,2076_310069651,00.html

8/28 is the (scheduled delivery) day I get mine.

http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/images/uk/kuro/

Personally I think SED has more potential and a long-run cost advantage (if it ever makes it to market) (printed micro-emitters v.s. Deep Encased Cell Structure / Crystal Emissive layer v.s. glass sub straight / etc…)

It still doesn’t make sense and the judge did rule on the case based on the letter of the law. Canon did not have a majority vote in SED so it wasn’t a subsidiary per the law. Again, the actual lawsuit was decided by a jury not the judge.

“What does Plasma use then? A magic juice emitter?”

No liquid is used, just gas! Plasma screens use a small electric pulse for each pixel [red, green and blue phosphors make up a triad which makes up a single pixel] to excite the rare natural gases argon, neon and xenon used to produce the color information and light. The phosphors are not excited by an electron emitter they are excited by UV light produced by electromagnetically charged plasma.

“1) I didn’t realize SED had ANY guns, I thought it used micro-emitters and a high voltage accelerator.”

You’re splitting hairs. It’s just terminology, an electron gun is an electron emitter. Both use electron emitters to activate phosphors on a screen, both use high voltage accelerators and yes SEDs use micro-emitters [The electron emission element is made from an ultra-thin electron emission film that is just a few nanometers thick].

“2) One emitter for every pixel? Since when did SED become monochrome? SED actually uses 3 emitters per pixel (one per sprite.)”

I was not trying to describe every detail that didn’t really matter that’s why I said essentially but you are correct, SEDs use a separate emitter for each color phosphor (3 per pixel, or 1 per sub-pixel). BTW, if you want to split hairs how would one emitter per pixel be monochromatic, whose to say what color (sub-pixel) the emitter would be aimed at for each pixel. You could have red in some, green in others and blue in the rest.

“What SED? What Plasma? What CRT? What method are you measuring with?”

You are just being silly again. In this type of comparison we are considering the best of each technology (generalizing) just as you were when you said that SEDs aren’t that different from Plasma. If not, what method are you measuring with and what SED and Plasma?

“In fact, not surprisingly Pioneer claims their latest Plasma to be better then SED. Wonder how Sparks would interpret that ”

I think Sparks would say something like – how in the world can Pioneer possibly make such a claim, no proof no evidence, they don’t even have an SED display to measure. I think his written opinion would be – marketing foofoo.

I agree with you, Pioneers claim is not surprising.

…That doesn’t make sense, all contracts must be interpreted on their intent…

I’m sorry that didn’t make sense, perhaps if you re-read it a few times, you will be able to better “interpret” it… perhaps even correctly.

…Actually I’m pretty familiar with the technologies. The Plasma display is based on phosphors just like SED and CRT displays but it does not use an electron emitter….

What does Plasma use then? A magic juice emitter? lol

…SED technology is much closer to the CRT….

It must be because it doesn’t use the magic juice like Plasma does! Not sure I’ll live that one down

….Instead of one large electron gun (CRT) SED essentually has one for every pixel…..

1) I didn’t realize SED had ANY guns, I thought it used micro-emitters and a high voltage accelerator.
2) One emitter for every pixel? Since when did SED become monochrome? SED actually uses 3 emitters per pixel (one per sprite.)

….SEDs brightness and color quality is comparable to CRTs as well as its’ contrast ratio, gray-scale and black levels, if not better, which is not true of Plasma displays….

What SED? What Plasma? What CRT? What method are you measuring with?

SED’s can turn an emitter off, so yes they will have excellent color and contrast if controlled accurately. – CRT’s experience too much light blooming to score very well with any type of mixed content / checkerboard pattern. Top end plasmas excel there. In fact, not surprisingly Pioneer claims their latest Plasma to be better then SED. Wonder how Sparks would interpret that